Friday, February 1, 2013

February 1, 2013

there was no DD  yesterday.. problem being -- there was no yesterday  just one long 48 hour day
 
result being 3 lovely pups and a fridge overflowing with chinese food.
 
it was--- and is  an education worth sharing...
 
noel is not what you would call an enthusiastic mother starting with the fact that i have never seen pups born with as little effort...  luna's or   chaos's contractions were all body experiences-- in  noel's case- it was more--  , she   would wander around looking bewildered and something would fall out
 
i did not put the exact details in th e explore comments because things were happening too fast  ... now that we have 3 apparently healthy pups - i can explain our actions a bit better.
 
george had done an ultrasound and said 4 pups.....
 
what fell out of noel at 7am had not been a puppy for at least a week.and i thought.... thousands of people watching and we could have 3 dead pups next... when she did not have any real contractions  and was only slightly  uncomfortable- we finally went to the vets.- thinking ??c-section? it was somewhere between 60 and 65 days since she was bred.
 
so they took xrays-- and 2 of the vets thought we should just wait on any oxytocin ( produces stronger contractions)- they both said 2 normal pups and one that did not look as big as the other 2.. but suggested we wait til her contractinos were normal.
 
 we started home  - stopping at staples for a quick purchase -- i came out to find noel had dropped her firstborn  in the van-- megan was in attendence -- and it all seemed normal- so we drove home. -- settling noel in what was to be her whelping area.- the best she could do is decide whatever that thing was--it smelled funny.- and we settled in--?3 hours later she passed a piece of something and an hour after that an absolutely  lifeless pup--  i struggled to get it started with puppy cpr...- to no avail.- by the vet's count- we only had th e one other pup in there and it did it look as "normal" as the other 2--
 
 i tried to get the camera people prepared for another disaster when after 2 minor pushes  another lifeless pup was born.. except we could get this one going...  it screamed-- we  cheered-- and everyone felt better  we had 2 pups... both nursing...
 
 we did not have the last  afterbirth-- so the vet suggested we give her one shot of oxytocin to see if she would pass it.
an  hour later megan took her out to pee, and came back in- still waiting for the aftrbirth when megan said  she thought she saw it coming-- and then said-- it is white--and then "  IT IS A PUPPY-- A HARL !!"
turned out to be a female beautifully marked harlequin.  who screamed--normally and nursed right away..... the final 2 afterbirths came after that.
 
sooooo ..... for all you "normal" breeders who tell me   "go have an xray to find out....."      let us go back ..
 
i made the statement months ago  i didn't bother to have an xray/ultrasound to determine the number of pups because  i have never had them be right"
george is gonna kill me for that one.
 
 that is a remark that still holds true--- it was at some point valuable knowledge to know IF there were any pups...   but
george said 4 from the ultrasound -- technically he said "at least 4' so he is covered... 
 
 after one born  dead-- 2 other vets  said 2 possibly 3 when there were still 4..
 
how does that make you feel about xrays in general???
 
"oh... your arm is not broken"  and a few days later "well maybe you have a slight hairline..."
 
medicine is an art.... not a science.
 
 today schedule?
we have none
 
we will need experienced puppy wizzers-- because noel has not go into the full time care business yet...

5 comments:

  1. CARLENE...THANK YOU FOR LETTING US WATCH THE MIRACLE OF THESE BIRTHS!!! IT IS EXCITING...BETTER THAN THE SUPER BOWL!!!
    Tami Jorajuria - havadane-OR

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  2. You all did a wonderful job. I loved on a farm for 30 plus years and of all the births I have witnessed, taken part in I've never seen a more effortless birth. Our boder collie had four pups easily and she was not a good mother. Had to keep her in the house 24/7. Let her out and she was gone. Love York blogs and cameras, brings back lots of good memories for this 80 year old animal lover. Sara

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  3. TO ALL WHO PARTICIPATE, THANK YOU! IT WAS A ROLLERCOASTER RIDE, I WATCHED LATE INTO WED NIGHT, ONLY TO WAKE AND YOU WERE GONE TO THE VETS. I KEPT WATCHING TO SEE THE SADDNESS AND DETERMINATION TO SAVE THAT PUPPY, CARLENE YOU KNOW YOUT STUFF, GRACE UNDER PRESSURE. A VALIANT EFFORT. I WIPED MY TEARS AND KEPT WATCHING, ONLY TO SEE THE SADDNESS CHANGE TO UTTER JOY ON MEGAN FACE WHEN CARLENE GOT THE 2ND MALE BREATHING. AND WHAT A SURPRISE WHEN THE LITTLE GIRL ARRIVED. OSCAR NOW HAS COMPETITION FOR THE "CUTEST MUG" CONGRATS MEGAN, LOVE THE NAMES, MANGUS, MURPHY & MARIAH I SAY A GREAT DAY!!! see you again in 2 weeks

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  4. Carlene, and Megan and all the staff and volunteers. You are wonderful, caring individuals with wonderful goals and knowledge. I raised 3 liters of American Eskimo puppies and luckily did not loose any of them. But, I did know the risk and was prepared that all of natures creatures are not going to make it and I know it is sad - we grieve, however you have 3 wonderful pups and mom is doing fine. I like to emphasize the positives. You are so knowledgeable and I cheered you on while you were resuscitating. My heart, my faith, and my admiration goes out to all of you. I wished I lived closer I would love to help you out doing anything I could. I love all your attitudes and "comedic" styles. You do so much for everyone!!!! Congratulations and just know you are truly appreciated and loved by so many 2 legged people and 4 legged critters!

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  5. All wonderful Reply's so... what everyone else said ...goes for me too :)

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