Thursday, July 25, 2013

JULY 25, 2013
BEFORE ANYONE COMES DOWN ON ME FOR CONSIDERING A MERLE MERLE CROSS... I HAVE STUDIED IT IN DETAIL... -- REMJEMBER I AM NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF PRODUCING SHOW DOGS WITH CERTAIN MARKINGS ETC

I AM WANTING WORKING DOGS- THERE IS AN AKC AUTHORITY I RUN INTO ALL THE TIME .. SHE HAS FINALLY STOPPED CALLING MY DOGS A "PIECE OF JUNK" BECAUSE I DO NOT PURSUE A CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE AT THE DOG SHOWS,... ACTUALLY SHE REALLY GOT MAD AT ME FOR BUYING A BUNCH OF BLUE RIBBONS FOR 15 CENTS EACH AT THE RIBBON MAKERS STORE...

IT JUST SEEMED SUCH AN EASY SOLUTION.... BUT THAT IS MY HISTORY WITH THE GDCA ( GREAT DANE CLUB OF AMERICA)
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I AM SURE THERE WILL BE A FEW WHO WILL DECIDE VERY VOCALLY ONLINE--- I DO NOT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING...

START WITH.. STATISTICALLY-- HEALTH WISE---- BREEDING HARL X HARL IS ABOUT AS BAD AS MERLE TO MERLE WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT MERLE TO MERLE WILL PRODUCE NO "CORRECTLY COLORED" SHOW DOGS.. SO FOR YEARS THE AKC DECIDED MERLES WERE THE WRONG COLOR AND SHOULD NOT BE SHOWN/BRED/OR SOLD. THE FACT THAT MERLE TO MERLE DOES NOT PRODUCE SHOW COLOR HARLS SEEMS TO BE THE BASIC OBJECTION..

IN THE AKC OPINION "WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO BREED DOGS WHEN THERE IS NO CHANCE OF PRODUCING A SHOW DOG" WELL... I AM THE EXCEPTION

SINCE THERE WAS ONLY 3 LETTERS YESTERDAY- WE BROUGHT YELLOW IN FOR A CAMERA SESSION-- AND THEN HIS BROTHER BENTLY... THEY ARE BOTH GREAT DOGS- BUT CONFORMATION WISE I PREFER YELLOW-- HE IS ONE BRICK OF A THING.-- AND IF I HAD TO BE VERY PICKY ABOUT PERSONALITIES-- YELLOW IS THE QUIETER "I AM FAR SUPERIOR TO THE REST OF THE WORLD" ATTITUDE AND BENTLY CAN BE A LITTLE SILLY. MINUS THE COAT COLOR MY CLEAR CHOICE IS YELLOW.

AND BOTH CAN PRODUCE HEALTH ISSUES--- READ THAT CAREFULLY-- BOTH HARLS AND MERLES CAN PRODUCE DEAF WHITES- AND AN ODD STILLBORN HERE AND THERE-- WE KNOW THAT-- SO CAN ALOT OF DOGS-- AND PEOPLE...

THE CHART SAYS

MERLE X MERLE 25 % BLACK- --- 50%MERLE-- ---25% WHITE

HARL X HARL 8%BLACK 16%BLACK/W 33% HARL 16%MERLE 16%WHITE/HARL 8 WHITE

 SO IN A LITTER OF 8 WE STATISTICLLY COULD HAVE ONE BAILEY--- WELL THAT SURE ISN'T GOING TO BOTHER ME MUCH...

IF WE HAVE 8 STILLBORNS THAT WOULD BE WAY OUT OF THE STATISTCAL BELL SHAPED CURVE.. COULD IT HAPPEN? YES - AND IF WE SHOUL;D BE SO UNLUCKY TO HAVE IT HAPPEN , WE STILL HAVE TO GO WITH PROBABILITY CHART-- IT ALSO  COULD HAPPEN HARLTO HARL

AND THERE IS NO PARTICULAR PROBLEM WITH A DEAF DOG- THEY AREN'T MUSH DIFFERENT THAN A BEAGLE WHO DOESN'T LISTEN ANYWAY-- BESIDES NOW- WE HAVE A VIBRATING COLLAR FOR USE WITH DEAF-- I HAVE HAD DEAF... SOME OFMY BEST SHINER, PANDYMONIUM - AND MARIA HAD ONE ...OTIS...

WHAT I NOW WILL DO IS REDUCE THE FAMILY TREE TOTHE STATS FOR COLOR AND SEE HOW CLOSE THAT GDCA CHART PERCENTAGES COMPARE WITH THE REAL WORLD...

THAT WILL TAKE ME A WHILE AND I WILL SEND IT OUT LATER..

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NOW ABOUT HOW I DECIDED 32 " WAS THE GOAL FOR SIZE OF A DANE SERVICE DOG....AND WHY GEORGE BUSH'S "INSEAM" MEASUREMENT INFLUENCED IT.

 IN ALL THOSE PHOTOGRPHS OF GEORGE BUSH WALKING DIRECTLY AT THE CAMERA, I NOTICED HIS KNUCKLES WERE AT THE SAME HEIGHT AT HIS .... SHALL WE SAY... INSEAM MEASUREMENT?????

 SO I WONDERED WHAT WAS THE MOST POPULAR INSEAM MEASUREMNT--- WHERE ELSE TO GO BUT COSTCO AND THERI PILE OF BLUE JEANS.-- THE HIGHEST PILE WAS THE 32" INSEAM-- I AM SURE THEY SPENT A FORTUNE RESEARCHING THAT - SO I WILL TAKE THIER WORD FOR IT.

 A KNUCKLE HIGH DOG WOULD NOT NEED A LONG HANDLE- AND EVERY INCH OF A HANDLE LOOSES STABILITY...

SO I SET ABOUT BREEDING FOR 32" DOGS...STRONG- STURDY-- SHORTER LEGS.--. SHORTER NECKS -- A PIECE OF JUNK-- JUST LIKE YELLOW.

I AM WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK OF A DEAF DOG OR TWO IN ORDER TO PRODUCE A BUNCH OF GREAT SERVICE DOGS .. THERE ARE QUALIFIED PEOPLE WHO WOULD ADOPT A DEAF DOG...

I AM WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK- BECAUSE I AM ALSO WILLING TO DEAL WITH WHATEVER HAPPENS...

AND THIS CAMERA CROWD HAS BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH NOW TO REALIZE WE CAN HAVE PROBLEMS OF ANY KND AT ANY TIME.. I HOPE THEY WILL BE READY TO EXPLAIN TO ANY NEWCOMMER WHO SHOWS DOGS- THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT GOAL... I CAN HEAR IT COMING....

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I WANT TO GET AT THE FAMILY TREE AND SEE HOW CLOSELY ALL THOSE NUMBERS ON THE CHART FIT... I WILL POST THAT LATER

IN THE MEANTIME HERE 'S 2 REFERENCES

 
Double merles are often referred to as "lethal whites". This is an incorrect and misleading term. There is nothing lethal about the merle gene, it can just be problematic. Lethal white is a completely separate gene which does not occur in dogs. It occurs in horses,
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ALSO I TALKED TO AOL AND THEY SAID THEY MAY HAVE FIXED THIS EMAIL PROBLEM-- PUTTING ME ON THE WHITE LIST FO PEOPLE ALLOWED TO SEND OUT MASSIVE NUMBRS OF EMAILS

BUT IT MIGHT TAKE 24 HOURS

I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM ANYONE WHO STOPPED GETTING IT AND NOW IT IS BACK AGAIN.
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I AM NOT YELLING-
 I CAN NOT SEE the small print

11 comments:

  1. Carlene, I completely agree with you on this. I have a gorgeous 8 yr old Merle female, and she came from a Merle to Harl breeding. For years I read about the 'sins' of Merle breeding. You are correct though; there is risk in all the Harl/Merle breeding combos. I've never bred dogs, but having had Merle and Harl Danes, it's always fascinated me how the genes work.

    As beautiful as your dogs have always turned out, I think it's worth the risk in the end too. Besides, in your case, this is about a solid, dependable service dog, not a beauty queen or king..lol. Having them come out sound AND beautiful is just a bonus! :)

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  2. I have had 2 deaf animals. A cat and a newfoundland. The cat was born deaf. The newf developed deafness later due to an illness later in her life. They were the best and most lovable animals I ever had.

    They both adapted to sign language which is used in most training, anyway. Their safety was always of most paramount concern. Neither were ever allowed outside without a leash or a fenced area. There never seemed to be any lack of joy or sense of security in their lives.

    In someways, the deafness actually seemed to be a benefit to them. Neither had to worry about sudden loud noises (thunder, horns, etc). My newfoundland actually seemed calmer after acquiring her deafness. She was no longer disturbed by the barking dogs, next door or the coyotes in the woods. Anyone that has heard coyotes in the night knows those blood curdling screams will wake the dead. My animals slept right through it.

    I never felt bad because my animals couldn't hear me. They can look at you and know immediately what kind of mood you are in or how much you love them.

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  3. Another Bailey would be far from a bad thing. I love that girl.
    And I volunteer to adopt a deaf puppy!!! Casper needs a play mate. :)

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    1. :) You made me smile with this comment.

      Give Casper a cookie and a smooch from me. He was and is my favorite Chuppy. <3

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    2. I will!!! You can keep up with his antics on his blog now, too. www.casperthefriendlydane.wordpress.com
      He shares some of his goofy adventures and is working on raising disability awareness.

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  4. CARLENE, YOUR DOGS ARE NOT JUNK. I, AS A DISABLED VETERAN, WOULD PREFER A STURDY DOG TO ONE THAT IS SHOW. I HAVE WATCHED YOU ALL SINCE OLIVE'S BIRTH AND THINK THAT YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE, VOLUNTEERS AND CARING TO MAKE IT OVER ANY HURTLES THAT COME YOUR WAY. AS FOR DEAFNESS, I LEARNED SIGN AS A CHILD TO PLAY WITH FRIENDS WHO WERE DEAF AND ANIMALS, LIKE CHILDREN TAKE TO IT FINE. SO THEY POSE CHALLENGES BUT EVERYTHING IN LIFE DOES.

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  5. If more breeders would concern themselves with confirmation and disposition instead of appearance, most breeds would be improved! Back-breeding is the biggest culprit in creating 'junk dogs'! I love that you breed for the right reasons, sturdy, gentle, and intelligent dogs!

    As to the occasional deaf dog, right you are, a bit of extra patience in training them to live with humans, works just fine. They mostly depend on body language anyway, as to all pack/herd animals, and therefore can communicate just fine.

    I had care of an elder golden retriever for about a year, who lost almost all of his hearing during that time. He was very attentive and quite obedient. Luckily most of his excellent training had occurred already early in life and all I had to do was make sure he was looking at me. A foot stomp on the floor and he looked up, responding to the vibration, the rest was 'standard'.

    Keep up the good work!

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  6. MY NEIGHBOR HAS TWO BLUE DANES, VERY EXPENSIVE DOGS. THE MALE IS HUGE, THE BIGGEST DANE I HAVE EVER SEEN. THE FEMALE IS SMALLER BUT THEY BOTH HAVE LONG, LONG LEGS. BEFORE I FOUND SDP I HAD ALREADY DECIDED THEY BOTH LOOK ODDLY PROPORTIONED, THE MALE ESPECIALLY. PERSONALLY I LIKE THE LOOK OF A DOG PROPORTIONED LIKE YELLOW MUCH BETTER. FOR ALL THEIR SIZE, NEIGHBOR'S DOGS LOOK FRAGILE TO ME. AND I AM PARTIAL TO THE MERLE COAT. ODDS DON'T LOOK BAD TO ME. ALWAYS RISKS WITH BREEDING DOGS. OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.

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  7. I'm sure that George Bush and every other man gives thanks that their knuckles meet their inseam. Otherwise, men couldn't constantly check to see if they are still attached. Funny that.

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  8. THIS WAS A REALLY INFORMATIVE DD. REALLY ENJOYED READING HOW YOU DECIDED WHAT HEIGHT WAS THE BEST FOR THE JOB THESE DOGS HAVE. YELLOW IS A GORGEOUS BOY, WELL PROPORTIONED AND BASICALLY A TANK. IF YOU COULD GET SOME LIKE HIM OUT OF THE LITTER THAT WOULD BE AWESOME FOR A DISABLED PERSON - VETERAN OR NOT.

    NOT A HUGE FAN OF SO-CALLED SHOW DOGS. MOST THAT I HAVE ENCOUNTERED ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO DO THE JOB THE BREED WAS DESIGNED TO DO.

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  9. You may have seen more 32" inseam pants at Costco because most men will buy the 34" inseam. But those needing a dog are probably not all men.

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